Muddy Waters

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  Gorby says goodbye

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  my eyes for ttatt opened in 1995 with the generation change and the wt magazine stated "some witness thought that the generation started in 1914".

  since 1997, with internet at low speed, i followed h2o hourglass, www.xjw.com and later on www.jehovahs-witness.net.. did a bachelor and post bachelor since then.. now, nearly completed with fading, i feel it's time to go on with my life and do some other things, spending more time with my wife abd children instead of thinking about jw topics in my head.

  goal is being a better person and less grumpy at 45.... everything what could be said is already said.

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  Muddy Waters

  All the best to you and yours, Gorby. I've enjoyed your comments and insights.

  - Muddy
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  2016 Convention Video Trailers

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkpr0je0g1e

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  Muddy Waters

  Wow. Just. Wow.

  And the stupid "Coming Soon." thing at the end of their videos. !!!! What jerks. All they're missing is "... in theatres near you..." !! Coming Soon. !!!! Idiots. But oooooh, the dubs are supposed to be all excited at this little trailer-tease and look forward to the convention and all its exciting features. Coming soon! - just like Armageddon.

  The poor brother who is in all kinds of debt and who "just wants to die" (hello! Red flag! But no worries, he just temporarily upset....) But oh, let's see, Jehovah will probably bless him with a wonderful high-paying part time job, and all will be wonderful again (as long as he stays spiritually active on the spiritual-routine-treadmill!) 

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  And how can they show such violence and portrayals of such violence about to happen?? (Oh yeah, duh, it's in the bible so must be okay..!)

  Also, behold, the frantic female screaming in the background, "What is the matter with you!!?? OUR CHILDREN WILL DIE!!" Again, nice thing to have in an audience which includes very young children. I heard another similar line in the video trailer too,  something like, "We're all going to DIE!!!"

  It is so clear now to see the emotional manipulation, the fear tactics....

  And the encouraging of blind trust, obedience, and faith in Jehovah to provide one with the necessities of life when everything is going to hell in a hand basket.

  This stuff just makes me ill. It's just downright irresponsible.

  Not to mention the wonderment at the cost of all this -- fancy production, stage sets, photoshop, graphics, actors, costumes, etc. How much does it cost to produce all this?

  These Pharisee hypocrites have no bounds - and did you notice how so many of the characters are INAPPROPRIATELY SMILING when delivering bad news?? (the boss who is laying the guy off..... and a few other examples in the videos, too!) Just WEIRD and wrong. The JWs don't know how to act like normal people.

  This is crap. Total JW/GB/G.O.D. Crap.

  G.O.D - "Gaurdians of Doctrine"

  G.O.D. - Guilt, Obsession, Denial. (Or Demands!)

  Get 

  Over yourselves, 

  Dudes!!!!
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  Prince is dead.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard about this?

  that really sucks.

  lots of dubs are talking.

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  Muddy Waters

  I remember watching the movie "Purple Rain" and being surprised at the way he portrayed himself - it was such a moody, broody, yet sensitive portrayal. He was a unique individual.

  And Natas, Elvis Presley was also surrounded by yes-men and enablers, but you can't deny his talent.
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  Chapter 2 of the Novel "New Boy"

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  chapter 2.

  the door to door salesman.

  so back in the nineteen fifties people bought all kind of things from door to door salesmen.

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  Muddy Waters

  Nice work! You have a very fluid, conversational way of writing. Looking forward to reading more! Thank you. :)
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  NEW 2012 Elders book with 2015 Amendments

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thanks to jw archive wiki we have a pdf of the new elders book.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz9z38909t3fh7c/2012-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-ks10_e.pdf?dl=0.

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  Muddy Waters

  Thank you, wifibandit!! Much appreciated!

  To think, that I, a lowly female, can look upon this sacred, secret document (more secret than the bible!! lol!!) and ponder its mysteries.... I mean, hypocrisies..... !!

  And also, to think!! -- that once upon a time I believed that my improper viewing of this sacred document would be akin to the sin of (Uzzah?) that guy who put out his hand to steady the ark of the covenant when it was going to fall.... the guy who was instantly killed for "his presumptuousness and overstepping his bounds." Geez. I could never understand that one, either. Was the (holy) ark supposed to fall to the ground and shatter? Maybe Jehovah figured he would miraculously step in to right the wobble, but not if he could kill somebody first for trying to be helpful.

  Hmm. Might that sound familiar? Let's kill or punish people who might want to help when THEY DONT KNOW THEIR PLACE!
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  What Are the Top JW Issues That Just Burn Your Buns the Most?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which ones make you the maddest?

  covering up of abuse, shunning, failed end of world predictions?.

  my list is long and heavy, but the top 3 that set me off the most are:.

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  I agree with everything everyone has said! It makes you see just how totally abhorrent is the WT cult!!

  What bothers and hurts me the most is the way I treated my non-JW family.... and it's too late for me to connect with or make amends with some of them as they have already died. Such like that breaks my heart....
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  Leaving the JWs

  by Hurting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am 32 years and have recently left the organisation.

  i got baptised in last feb. please excuse any typing errors i have dyslexia.

  it has been so hard this year i have gone through so many ups and downs.

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  Muddy Waters

  Yes, Giordiano, thank you, this place is a refuge and a hiding place from the windstorm! Ha! (I love using the scriptures back at them!)

  And YOU too have made many posts which have helped me and given me much food for thought. Lots of insights and advice, very kind. Thank you.

  I had not seen this post the first time around, so hopefully, Hurting, you are doing all right?
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  Leaving the JWs

  by Hurting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am 32 years and have recently left the organisation.

  i got baptised in last feb. please excuse any typing errors i have dyslexia.

  it has been so hard this year i have gone through so many ups and downs.

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  Muddy Waters

  MicaSmith.... your post... omg. So much of it speaks to me as well, and will probably help my own daughter (and sons, too?) who I raised in this goddamn cult. (Please excuse me, I don't normally swear, it mostly comes out when I talk about this religion!)

  Thank you for sharing your extremely helpful insights ...
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  Leaving the JWs

  by Hurting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am 32 years and have recently left the organisation.

  i got baptised in last feb. please excuse any typing errors i have dyslexia.

  it has been so hard this year i have gone through so many ups and downs.

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  Muddy Waters

  
  

  THIS!!!!! ----> "... life passes so quickly as a JW: day in, day out, the same objective -- proving your worth to yourself and to others..."

  This hit me, BOOM!! This sentence resonated with me so much!!! - it hit me like a ton of bricks!! THIS is the reason that f'n cult appealed to me (excuse language), and why I stayed in it so god awfully long!!!! (close to 30 years & I was not born in!)

  I had been damaged by life, certain circumstances & situations that badly hurt a little girl's psyche -- and your sentence just leaped out at me -- it's like it has finally been explained to me what the heck I needed from that cult -- because that question has been on my mind a long time, and I just couldn't explain it in my head the exquisitely perfect way you just said it, with such simple clarity and focus of insight.

  If you feel as though you have gained healing or comfort or clarity here too as well, from the dear PEOPLE here (not "these ones, those ones, such-like ones" -- the way the bOrg describes their members (drones)!, always just as a NUMBER!! - ha! And watch them change that because they friggin' read these boards!! - but I digress) -- please know that you have just amazingly helped heal and comfort me, Muddy -- Muddy Waters -- a lady now in her 50's with thankfully NO members of her family left in the Borg!)

  This board, and another, has been instrumental in my journey out of an extremist group. This board is my therapist! :) and I hope the dear individuals here know how valuable you all are.
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  Who knows Natheer Salih ?

  by rege brazzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many bro s spoken about the bethelite natheer salih as a wise iraquian jew that became jw.he worked in writting dpertmente.

  somebody knows him ?

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  Muddy Waters

  Yes, I have heard of these theories & connections: that many of these new religions are grabs for land, money, and real estate, and whatever else: power and control without transparency or full disclosure by other hidden powers that be... but who knows....